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U.S. Rep. Bob Inglis: Glenn Beck, fear-mongering undermines Americans' faith in constitutional republic

Posted August 07th 2009 12:45:32 am by Jason Spencer
Categories: News, Politics

Republican U.S. Rep. Bob Inglis stood in front of a verbal firing squad for more than 90 minutes tonight, trying to keep a lid on the fear and anger in the room enough to have a rational discussion about health care.

But in the end, things bubbled over.

I filed my story from the Upstate Family Resource Center in Boiling Springs well over an hour into the town hall, tweeting before, during and after writing it. I figured I had enough material.

The congressman, after all, already had affirmed his belief in the Second Amendment, not to mention the First, Fourth, Tenth and maybe another one or two. He’d reminded everyone that he was a Republican, not a Libertarian. He had tried to convince them he wasn’t pushing a secret plan to force everyone to get vaccinated against the swine flu. He said he didn’t believe health care was a right, but that a Judeo-Christian nation would see to it that people who needed emergency treatment got it. He talked about the need for everyone to have health insurance, because “free riders,” as they are called, cause medical costs to go up for the rest of us. He criticized the current health care bill for not specifically including language that would prohibit taxpayer-funded abortions, and put forth the belief that a public option would drive private providers out of the market. He had, after all, a 16-point list of reasons why he was against the very health care bill that much of the fervent crowd had come to voice their opposition to.

He even said, when asked, that he would opt out of the health insurance program he has by virtue of his office and “join the rest of us” if the current legislation passes.

But he wouldn’t sign an undated letter of resignation to be submitted in case he didn’t. That certainly raised some eyebrows: “Why not?”

So, after I hit my send button, a woman stands up and starts saying repeatedly that she’s afraid of President Obama. Inglis asks her why she’s afraid. And that’s when it started.

“He has too much power!”

“What do you mean, why?”

“Go home, Bob!”

It’s kind of a blur here. Inglis told people to turn off Glenn Beck. He told them to turn off the fear-mongering.

Thankfully, Inglis called me later tonight, on his way home from the “after party” where he met with a dozen or so local Republican precinct chairmen. Just to make sure, I asked him if he used the specific term “fear-mongering.”

“Probably,” Inglis said. “That’s what he does. That’s what Glenn Beck is all about. And Lou Dobbs. I’ve had the misfortune of listening to those shows a couple of times.”

The Beck comment was the last straw for what was left of the 350-plus people who had come to the town hall – the seventh of 12 Inglis is hosting.

Afterward, there was some discussion among the Democrats and less extreme Republicans -- I used the word “moderate” on Twitter, but not everyone agrees with that label -- that they felt too intimidated to speak up tonight.

Inglis said his staff members got a similar sentiment, as several people came up to talk one-on-one with someone from the congressman’s office on their way out.

The atmosphere of fear at the town hall was markedly different than the one on the street, Inglis said. He went door-to-door in a nearby neighborhood before the town hall. (He often does that.) He said that gives him “a more standard distribution of people.”

He tried to explain the difference between being fearful and being aware of problem in order to try to fix it. He said the fearful crowd was predominantly rooted in the Libertarian and Constitutional parties.

“The conservative Republicans there realize that the Constitution is stronger than any president. We have every reason to have faith in the institutions that hold the country together,” Inglis said.

“But when fear takes over and people start thinking the Constitution is not strong enough to meet the challenge of a president they don’t like, you end up with some fairly hysterical reactions.”

Since we were on the subject, I asked him more about Beck.

“I don’t listen often to Glenn Beck, but when I have, I’ve come away just so disappointed with the negativity… the ‘We’ve just gone to pot as a country,’ and ‘All is lost’ and ‘There is no hope.’ It’s not consistent with the America that I know. The America I know was founded by people who took tiny boats across a big ocean, and pushed west in tiny wagons, and landed on the moon. That’s the America I heard on the streets of Boiling Springs.”

He continued: “The America that Glenn Beck seems to see is a place where we all should be fearful, thinking that our best days are behind us. It sure does sell soap, but it sure does a disservice to America.”

Now, given that I’m a journalist, I have an interest in the way the media works and how people perceive it. Lord knows, I can’t tell you how many times people have come up to me to let me know what a liberal rag I work for – despite the fact that many people who actually read our paper’s editorial page call it one of, if not the most conservative in South Carolina. And that’s saying something. So maybe this was giving Inglis a soapbox, but I wanted to hear it.

“If Walter Cronkite said something like Glenn Beck said recently on the air, about the president being a racist, Cronkite would’ve been fired on the spot,” Inglis said. “But I guess the executives of these cable news shows are more enamored with the profits that come from selling this negative message than they are with undermining the faith of people in this wonderful constitutional republic.”

He continued: “There is every reason to oppose President Obama’s health care package. It’s the wrong prescription. It needs to be stopped. But that doesn’t mean we need to abandon hope in America, and say the end is near, and people are going to force us to have immunizations. There’s no reason to go to that extreme.”

I should point out that Inglis is facing a crowded slate of challengers in next year’s Republican primary. If any of those candidates want to call and talk about FOX, MSNBC, CNN, talk radio or even good old-fashioned newspapers, they have my number.

Anyway, Inglis made a couple of final points in our conversation. It was getting late, and I was missing The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. ;)

“This is a constitutional republic that can withstand any president I disagree with,” Inglis said. “It withstood Bill Clinton. And if you were a George Bush-hater, it withstood George Bush. And it will withstand Barack Obama. And that’s just because there’s such confidence in the Constitution and the framers, who set up such an incredible system of checks and balances. …It’s inspiring to me to think about that.”

“What you saw tonight was people who had been convinced of this negativism, and are detaching from the communities and institutions that hold us together,” Inglis told me. “And I believe in the importance of strong institutions. I’m not an anarchist. And I’m not a Libertarian. I believe in a strong, smart federal government that is able to meet challenges like 9/11, and figure out how to correct its mistakes from Katrina…”

He lost his signal. (He was, after all, on Highway 11.) He called back and we wrapped up.

“I hope to convince people that there’s every reason to be optimistic, and there is a way forward. And I hope to help position the Republican Party as the party that presents a message that America can fall in love with, rather than a message that would drive fear in order to win votes."

UPDATE (1:46 a.m.): While I was writing this, at least one video clip from the night surfaced. The audio is difficult to decipher, but the crowd's reaction speaks volumes. It sounds like Inglis says "Turn that silly thing off." I'm going on memory at this point, but this was after the "I'm afraid of Obama!" woman and after the congressman brought Glenn Beck into the mix. There were a few people recording, so maybe the whole bit will show up. If so, send me the link (jason.spencer@shj.com) and I'll post it here.

UPDATE (11:09 a.m.): Just found a longer video on Twitter (thanks to @innovator82 for providing the link) from the town hall. Now, keep in mind that this video has been spliced together by someone who obviously wants "Anybody But Bob" to hold this seat. But within the first minute, you can clearly hear Inglis' original comments about Beck -- and the reaction . You can also hear more of the woman who is afraid of Obama. Keep watching to hear some of the audience questions (taken at the beginning of the meeting) and Inglis' answers (from the end of it).

31 comments

Comment from: Jo Valatka [Visitor]
"disappointed with the negativity" You should listen very carefully to what he is saying. He is angry with what is happening to our WONDERFUL COUNTRY. If you watch him, you would learn of all the connections Obama's cabinet has to the organizations that are hell-bent on destroying this WONDERFUL COUNTRY. Fearful? Not really! We're coming after him and we're going to take him down in spite of his thugs trying to stop us. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH. And yes, Rush, I too want Obama to fail at driving the last nail into the coffin of our constitution. Bob Inglis is holding the nails.
August 07th 2009 @ 1:00 pm
Comment from: T. Brewer [Visitor]
And what exactly are those "connections" of President Obama's cabinet that are hell bent on destroying the USA?
If you'd actually read the constitution you would see there are safeguards from one person having too much power. Jeez, get a grip woman.
August 07th 2009 @ 2:00 pm
Comment from: olivier blanchard [Visitor] · http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com
It's very refreshing to hear a political figure (of any party) speak his conscience instead of blindly siding with his party's proxy propaganda.

What I find deplorable is the lack of respect shown him, his integrity, honesty and his office by the people who heckled him at this meeting. It's inexcusable.

I feel very sorry for Jo (commenter, above) and anyone so easily swayed by professional agitators like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. I can't imagine how painful and tiring it must be to live with such fear and anger (not to mention ignorance) and not have a better way to channel it than this.

Look, the people spoke in November, just like they do every 4 years. President Obama was elected just like President Bush was before him. This is how it is. Regardless of who is President, let's just make it work for everyone. That's what this country is about: Cohesion, not division. People need to chill with the polarization and hatred and start working together. Seriously. The hatred and negativity really need to go.

Jason, great article.
August 07th 2009 @ 6:53 pm
Comment from: MANLY [Visitor] · http://MSN.COM
TO ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN PAYING ATTENTION IT IS PLAIN THAT IT IS THE IN- TENTION OF OBAMA TO MEKE THIS COUNTY A DICTATORSHIP, WITH HIM THE DICTATOR.
LOOK AT THE THINGS HE HAS DONE EXACTLY LIKE HITLER! TAKING OVER GM WAS JUST A START.HE WENT TO THE DICTATOR COUNTRYS TO LEARN THE ROPES( WITH TAX MONEY! )
wake up !!!
August 08th 2009 @ 8:49 am
Comment from: Paco [Visitor]
I'm a solid Democrat, which I hope people will have as much respect for as if I have a different religion than they do (if not more). So it's very refreshing to hear this about Bob Inglis, that he's willing to take on the fearmongers and engage both conservatives and liberals on the issues!

Obama can't develop good policies without engagement and compromise. Every president needs a loyal opposition to keep him honest.

Sane conservatives need people like Bob Ingles, a better-than-average class of Republican, to keep the party from degenerating into a bunch of jack-booted thugs.
August 08th 2009 @ 9:26 am
Comment from: Susan [Visitor]
Mr. Inglis ...Boy you sure don't get it do you. You might want to watch Glenn Beck more than once and the entire hour to understand him. He isn't fear mongering you are. How, by not telling us the truth by passing bills you don't read and by kissing up to the most liberal president this country has ever seen.
August 08th 2009 @ 7:30 pm
Comment from: anb [Visitor]
Gee, Mr. Inglis seems to be about as well informed regarding Glenn Beck as he is about bills he hasn't read.
August 08th 2009 @ 11:28 pm
Comment from: Dick Hertz [Visitor]
Kudos to Mr Inglis for having real patriotic feelings and the sand to back them up in the face of public panic. Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are both addicts who manipulate people publicly and privately for a living. Addicts have incredible skills when it comes to lying to people, manipulating people, and getting their way no matter the facts. They and their well funded, media saturated ilk are right now eating away at the fabric of this nation with their racism, negativism, and factless smearmongering. Like a beaten spouse who returns for more abuse, this country's poor, downtrodden, and maleducated are returning to their abusers for more poison and hate.
August 09th 2009 @ 7:08 am
Comment from: Linda [Visitor] Email
The problem with politics is that no one deals with the problems we have,They want to play the power cards.
The Republicans want power to keep all the money the US possesses,to continue to sli8de through the loop holes lie cheat and deny the poor and adverage American the right to a good paying job so they can put aroof over their childrens head,shoes on their feet and now be able to take them to a doctor to keep them from dying.They want the poor to work for their company for less while the company continues to grow.More growth less workers,less responsibility for the coorporations and be sure you make the employee thankful for just having the minimum wage job.Is this not the 3rd world way?
August 09th 2009 @ 2:07 pm
Comment from: jeanwoo [Visitor]
I want the President to come out and explain the healthcare proposal clearly for the adverage American.SC continues to elect Republicans irregardless of the lack of help they have given to the people.They want to make elected officials a lifelong job whether they are doing the job or not.It is not the party,it is the ethical way they run the job that represents everyone.How can we let these radios Propaganda like
Rush Limbaugh or Beck continue to pollute the people's mind.They also influence those who would run the job after elected.I sometimes wonder if these Limbaugh puppets know what is actually going on.I think tha there needs to be a limit to their serving or other words I cannot accuse them of.
August 09th 2009 @ 2:24 pm
Comment from: jam [Visitor]
what the screamers (using capitalized letters) need is not health care reform that will make health care affordable and available, what they need is to go back to high school and learn something.

(South Carolina stop shaming yourself and us.... US-Americans.. such as)
August 09th 2009 @ 6:26 pm
Comment from: sharon [Visitor]
Feed ignorant, armed, people lies, appeal to their irrational fears and prejudice, and what do you get - KRISTALLNACHT. Think it can't happen here - think again.
August 10th 2009 @ 9:47 am
Comment from: Steve [Visitor]
The screamers at Inglis's meeting are the result of the worst education system in the U.S. Some years we are ranked 49, sometimes 50. It all goes hand in hand. So let's all thank the SC gov't for making us ignorant and proud. I thought ignorance was bliss. May have to re-think that one.....
August 10th 2009 @ 10:58 am
Comment from: Rob [Visitor]
Great article and even a greater move from an honest politician (who knew?). This country had to endure 8 years of fear-mongering from the highest level and it seems that folks can't get enough of it. Though, in hindsight, trying to rationally appeal to an irrational mob may have not been the most effective strategy, Mr. Inglis has given me hope for real conservatives yet.
August 11th 2009 @ 6:56 pm
Comment from: nader paul kucinich gravel [Visitor]
Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura
Future of a Nation that can not trust the Government & Propaganda Media?
DNC & RNC have sold out the country in order to enrich themselves
Chronic lying as career path, intellectual prostitution for paycheck
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
Does the Government & Propaganda Media lie to you?
Wall Street Bailout Bill: Bush McCain Obama et al.
AIPAC 9/11 Bankers Extortion Blackmail Bribery
Independents agree on more than we disagree
Elite Ruling Class Greed or public servants?
Speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil
Honesty compassion conscience guts
Both parties are corrupt to the core
Beware the divide and conquer
Whistle-Blower leaks multiply
A very RawStory on PressTV
InfoWars on a PrisonPlanet
Israel-first dual-nationals
Gung-ho Chickenhawks
JFK RFK MLK Malcolm
Anthrax Intimidation
GGreenwald

Left and rights of passage
Black and whites of youth
Who can face the knowledge
That the truth is not the truth?
Obsolete
Absolute

Single payer?
Medicare for all?
Off the table?
Just like Impeachment was...
August 12th 2009 @ 4:33 am
Comment from: Susan [Visitor]
Wow, that was an interesting Haiku...When the government is out of control and spending it's way to oblivion and doesn't seem to care if we are going bankrupt and the media and governemt puts on it's happy face and says "unemployment is going down" and we look around at all the jobs that were supposed to be created with billions of our taxpayer money and China is worried about our debt and the congress was looking at spending 500 million on new jets for themselves to cruise around in and the administration is trying to showe a 1000 page bill that would effectively take away our choices and make us wait in line and give the government more power over our lives than we've ever seen....or you listening...WE SHOULD BE VERY CONCERNED!
August 13th 2009 @ 10:10 am
Comment from: A different kind of Jo [Visitor] Email
Steve, lol. We cannot educate our slaves, can we?

Jeanwoo, see factcheck.org.

The really frightening part for me is how easily masses may be swayed by unsubstantiated claims, just because a semi-well-spoken speaker speaks it on TV. No credentials, no references, just - garbage. This applies to ALL commercial television.

And Jason, hats off to you for your rhetoric-cleansed article. You certainly hit your mark.
August 13th 2009 @ 12:35 pm
Comment from: Chris DeJong [Visitor] Email
I attended Bob inglis' breakfast meeting at the Country Ham House in Greenville on Monday morning. I found him to be very reasonable on issues and to have real solutions for the health care mess we're in. His ideas to have insurance co-ops to provide coverage to those who didn't have any is great, His idea to cut down on medical malpractice costs by having arbitration panels rather than juries decide cases is a major step in the right direction. He is doing what he thinks is right for his constituents by going out on a limb with rational alternatives to the President's proposals. He has emphasized that listening to the fear mongers who put out wholly inaccurate statements on health care is not helpful. We need more rational, thinking persons like him in Congress. Listen to him once in a while. And while you at it, turn off Fox News AND CNN for a while.
August 19th 2009 @ 5:12 pm
Comment from: ajg [Visitor]
What about all of the 35+ czars that Obama has appointed now? Are they constitutional, Mr Inglis? There are NO checks and balances for them. I think that is what we should all be concerned about now.
August 25th 2009 @ 11:10 am
Comment from: Joe Bridges [Visitor] Email
It appears Bob Inglis has joined the party of compromise. Any one that can compromise their beliefs and morals don't really have any in the first place. If he can't see that replacing cabinet members who have to be confirmed with czars that don't is just an end around on the way to socialism and dictatorship. The republican party would be better off to purge themselves of this type of politicians who would compromise their mothers for a leg up on the power train. Bob Inglis and Lyndsie Graham need to be ostricised from the republican party.
September 07th 2009 @ 4:17 pm
Comment from: Joe Bridges [Visitor]
It appears Bob Inglis has joined the party of compromise. Any one that can compromise their beliefs and morals don't really have any in the first place. If he can't see that replacing cabinet members who have to be confirmed with czars that don't is just an end around on the way to socialism and dictatorship. The republican party would be better off to purge themselves of this type of politicians who would compromise their mothers for a leg up on the power train. Bob Inglis and Lyndsie Graham need to be ostricised from the republican party.
September 07th 2009 @ 4:21 pm
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